Phantomstuna wrote:
"w.r.t. the ppl who actually playing to votes, I can say GFL is DEFINITELY coming and we're are for 1.6. (dunno if all members registered here). Are the source votes just from random FFA players or are there actually clans playing who think that CS:S is a better competition game than 1.6? If so, I feel sorry for SA's gaming future. "
King calm, dude... Its not that we think its a "better competition game" its that 90% of the SA CS population are on CSS... sadly... It would be great to see a better crowed in 1.6 as i do enjoy the game... but, the gamers of today judge a game by its graphics... really, thats just lame. Look at crysis, awsome graphics... really pathetic gameplay in both SP and MP... FarCry 2, nice Single player.. Really, really bad multiplayer (tank like superman, wtf ??)
Once people start to realise that games aren't all shiny colours and perfect actions, then games like 1.6 and quake 3 will be back to their glory days.. and as well supported as they are in the european countries... because, they have realised that which i have mentioned above, and saw a [BLEEP] game when it came to them (css, quake4, cod5 soon).
thats just my 2c...
but, my vote was for css anyway because of the clan that i am involved in and the fact that i have been playing it for longer.
All King_Calm is saying is that, these votes are being made by potentially random people who are not even coming to the December LAN and that our team who is definitely coming [3 of us got tickets within opening week] put our vote into 1.6.
Now clearly Konvict [from bravado-gaming] who has a lot more experience in 1.6 and Source than most of the forumers, thinks that it should be 1.6 for some technical and some logistical reasons [such as the state of gaming in SA being more source orientated at the moment]. The problem with 1.6 in SA, is that sponsors are hard to find [its kinda catch-22 asking a large company to sponsor your game thats 5 years old when there is a more recent version of the game that could better show off their hardware/products or could get more numbers at the event].
I don't think the argument of 1.6 or CSS here can truly decided since their is such a split in the community that you will always reach a stalemate [which doens't really help Frag.co.za at all]. I think that people should rather think as a group and come to some sort of middle ground. The ultimate decision is do we [as a country] want:
CSS: To keep on doing whats the best for each person in the country [due to the current position there is more numbers and sponsorship in source]. Basically, everyone can compete in Source locally but no chance ever of competing on what they (and the majority of the world) may feel the more stable, strategic and skillful platform. [e.g. CSS events : rAge / Some USA leagues]
1.6: Still the international standard for 1.6, if any team from SA would ever want to compete overseas it would almost definitely be in 1.6, not source. However, this decision would need the community to get support from sponsors to see that, for maximum exposure they'd have to back something thats not the most recent. [e.g. 1.6 events: ESWC/ Kode5/ [CPL used to be before it ceased operations / WCG / everything big in the world]
Konvict: I rate walle > zet personally

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It's kinda Prisoner-Dilemma-like, but yeah, it's something that should have been made before people make changes in games :/